

News Roundup as Another One Bites the Dust
By: Martha | August 14th, 2008
Before it all went wrong.
When it rains, it pours — not only will Cyril #1 miss the Nancy game (at least) with a calf problem, but Ben Saada, one of the brightest spots from the Le Havre match in his 20 minutes of play, is now also out with a twisted ankle. Both of them are undergoing tests this week (I think Rool’s is today) to discern the severity of their injuries, and learn how long they’ll be missing. Jesus H., what a nightmare — poor Antonetti must be wondering what’s next, particularly after Ben Saada’s eye-catching work against Le Havre.
Away from the pitch, Roger Ricort recently gave another interview about the present and future of the club, and that word “infrastructure” came up yet again. It’s fascinating to me how frank he is — on one hand, there’s the ambition to establish Nice as one of the top six clubs in France and make regular European appearances. On the other, though, he’s talking about relegation, and whether or not the club could survive in L2 without making changes, as well as frankly addressing the issue of how the club is viewed by the football establishment in France. (Is Hugo Lloris suddenly a better player, having spent a month with Lyon? Is that why he’s now getting a call to the senior NT? Doubtful.) In the interview, Ricort also further discusses the difficulty of bringing players to the club, specifically mentioning the ongoing Dindane saga (which now seems to involved Lille), and the fantasy of Mateja Kežman.
It’s a really interesting balance of brutal honesty and establishing a scapegoat — as we’ve talked about here before if things don’t work out (whatever those things are), there is always the “infrastructure” to blame, and the politicians and developer who are making it impossible to erect a big, shiny new ground yesterday. Ideally, you’d like the club to take greater responsibility for its weaknesses, but the reality of the situation is such that, at a certain point, things really are out of their hands.
And, in other news:
•Rémy’s been called into Erick Mombaerts’ inagural Bleuet side for the Slovakia match next Tuesday. (Cross everything he doesn’t get hurt.) There’s also a new interview with him here, in which he continues to display surprising maturity — either someone coaches him really well in how to deal with the press, or there’s a lot more to the kid than initially meets the eye.
•There’s a brand new interview with Antonetti up on the official site, in which he reveals the club are working on finishing (No!) — something he, presumably with a straight face, labels “long-term work” — and that Eric Mouloungui just got back into regular training, which I think means he’s ahead of schedule. He’s obviously got a long way to go in terms of match fitness, but every healthy body helps.
•Coulibaly and Apam are both into the knockout stage of the Olympics, and they’ll face one another on Saturday in the quarters. Somebody will be home soon.
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I’ve read some comments by other Nice fans who were annoyed that Lloris got called up despite only playing two official games with Lyon. But he has been called up before, he’s been earmarked as a talent a long time.
I just thing in general, the French have a serious inferiority complex when it comes to their team and their league. Everyone else’s is always better. Our players are promising or overrated, but once they move elsewhere, they are world class, and we starting whining about how we can’t keep our players. It’s just depressing, really.
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It’s definitely easy to understand the frustration from the perspective of smaller clubs — Hugo’s the same player now he was two months ago, but his stature his higher so it seems like it’s acceptable to call him.
It’s funny to think of Lyon, the club with all the players on the NT, and the team buying a lot of the talent in France, having a sense of inferiority when compared to the rest of Europe, but I believe it. (Someone should try to map this out on paper, it’d be fascinating to see who feels inferior to/snubbed by whom.)
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Lyon really do have an inferiority complex. And I suspect they always will, even if they achieve success on the European stage. It’s the loser mentality, which is on par with the hating winners mentality. It kind of sucks to be a French team – French fans don’t seem to have as much blind faith as their English, German, and Italian counterparts.
It’s like, the opponent will always be superior in terms of experience, determination, and quality, even if the team is some two bit club from Montenegro. L1 will always suck, there aren’t enough fans or goals, our referees are crap, and we have awful stadiums. We can’t bring in quality foreign players, and our own players are never good enough (Essien, Drogba, Cech, Evra, Ronaldinho, Makelele, Zidane, Nasri, Ribery, Heinze, Marquez, Diarra, Mexes, Vieira, Adebayor, Trezeguet, etc). But once they leave, they are naturally world class.
I’m not even blowing this sentiment out of proportion, unfortunately.
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I also meant to say, the only team out there who really whole heartedly believes that they are God’s gift to mankind – without any self doubt whatsoever – is Real Madrid, and boy do they act like it. It seems to me all other teams have some measure of an inferiority complex, though amongst the biggest clubs, it’s very minor.
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I think I agree with Inara..but Italian fans have a terrible sense of faith and loyalty as well. It’s only there when the club is winning. (i.e. me. I don’t know how many times I posted about OMG INTER FAILING I KNEW IT even in the past two seasons of winning.)
I think of course people are going to be plenty pissed that Lloris was called up so soon after joining Lyon, but I think that it was inevitable that it was going to happen the minute he came. The French team has always been made up of mostly Lyon and Marseille players (under RayRay). As well, he picked most of the players from watching the Bordeaux – Lyon and the OM – Nancy game, which is not a surprise because the normal mentality is that the best players are with the best teams.
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Inara, do you have any idea where that extreme attitude comes from? Is it a matter of not settling, and always expect more no matter the opposition, or is it more negative than that? It seems like everyone else in France looks at Lyon with nothing but envy and even, in their hearts of hearts, admiration — do Lyon just discount the rest of France as legit opposition, and only compare themselves to the best clubs abroad?
Like Jennifer said, non-ultra/brigade Italian fans are AWFUL about faith and loyalty — stadiums empty out during bad seasons, and supporters always seem to expect the worst, wether you’re talking about Inter or Siena. Interestingly, I’ve been told the same thing is true of fans in Spain, and those of Real in particular. Perhaps it’s to do with that God’s gift attitude — anything less than perfection spells doom?
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